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Chris: We went to a really good Italo-disco night in Berlin. Therewerenāt many people there, but the people who were there were really enjoying it, and they were playing all this stuff that weād never heard, all this quite obscure Italo-disco. We felt quite inspired by this so we went back to our tiny studio in Berlin and started to write a piece of music inspired by what weād been hearing. It was a lot slower to begin with, but it eventually ended up as āAxisā. That was the title from the beginning. When you write a song in the program Logic, in order to save it you have to come up with a name, so you end up with all sorts of silly names. They normally get dumped when the song comes along, but in this case the āsave asā name stuck. Neil: I donāt remember who thought of āAxisā. Chris: Iāve got no idea. It makes it hard to sometimes ?nd songs because theyāve started off as something else, but now Iāve started ?ling them differently so that I always update to the latest song title, because in the past we used to spend hours with Pete Gleadall going through stuff trying to and / something that used to be called something else. Sometimes a title can change two or three times during its life. Neil: Originally it was a song, and it had not very good lyrics. Just formulaic relationship lyrics. Personally I didnāt think they were very inspiring. So we decided to dump them. When we started working on it for the album, Stuart decreed that we would work on the tracks in alphabetical order, so we started with āAxisā. After we dumped the singing, we decided it would be good to have some speaking stuff, and as weād already decided that the album would be called Electric we decided that this opening track itself would be called āElectricā. Hence the lyrics: ātum it on… feel the power… electric energyā. But then when it was finished we decided that āAxisā was a better title. Chris: Weāve never had a song title that was also the name of the album, so by that rule alone we couldnāt call it āElectricā. _ Neil: My inspiration for the spoken bits was sounding a bit like Madonna saying āerotica… pomance…ā All of the lyrics have a sort of vague double entendre. Chris: Stuart didnāt change it too much, but he Stuart Priceād it. He made it harder. He has these old synths that he makes interesting noises out of. Neil: He did the sound effect at the beginning. Chris: We had an idea that we wanted to have the sounds of electric power stations coming on. “Clunky noises” Neil: Also, one important thing about this album is that when we were working on the album we knew we were working on a show called Electric as well, and we assumed that the show would begin with this track. Chris: Heād already done a bit of work on it before he was working on the album. He toughened up the drum sounds and everything. Back then he was going to play it in his DJ set but then Angela ā our manager, his wife ā stopped him. Actually, we were a bit disappointed. Neil: Stuart liking this track so much was important, because sometimes when something is written very quickly you donāt really appreciate it enough. Chris: Itās a very rare occasion of us writing a song after weāve been out to dinner and to a club, because we normally work daytime, and this was a night-time writing experience. Perhaps weāll do more of it. Neil: The bell line at the end, by the way, is the only surviving bit of the vocal melody: āOne way to loveā it went. “Bolshy” Neil: During most of the making of this record, this was the last track that had been written, until āFluorescentā came along when the album was actually ?nished pretty much. We wrote āBolshyā in Berlin last year (2012) when we were working on the Alan Turing piece. We went over to write what we thought was the ?nal long section of the Alan Turing piece and the first thing we did was suddenly write this instead. I canāt even remember why we did. Chris: No idea. Neil: We just started writing it. Itās a bit of a mystery to me, this song. Iāve no idea where ābolshy bolshy bolshy ohā came from ā I just started singing it. The demo particularly I donāt think sounded like anything weād ever done. It sounded like a different group. Chris: I ād read about this recording technique where you record maybe half-a-dozen instruments all playing the same line and then you just cut in between them so that you get this mad effect ā itās one line but the sounds keep changing all over the place. I thought, oh, Iāll have a go at that. So the demo was just an experiment to see how that worked, and then it developed into this. Itās quite an unusual-sounding song. Neil: āBolshyā of course means ādif?cultā or āawkwardā or ārudeā but also is short for āBolshevikā so we decided to put Russian samples on it. We simply translated some of the lines of the song using a computer translation program. The voice sounds great in Russian. Chris: We also started each show of the Electric tour like that: āGood evening, Moscow, welcome to Electric…ā āNeil: By the way, some people who are native Russian speakers have criticised the translation in the song, but that isnāt our fault ā thatās the translation program. And it sounds good. Itās meant to be audio excitement. The lyric has nothing personal in it ā itās just making sense of the ābolshyā chorus. Itās a pathetic man whoās in love with a very dif?cult woman. One of my heterosexual lyrics. I really like the bit that goes, āI donāt believe you donāt know you could own me.ā Itās a very āupā song but it still has a favour of the anger. Because of course, as Johnny Rotten said, āanger is an energyā. Chris: Another bell line. Does every track have a bell line? Neil: There are loads. Chris: Itās the album of bell lines. Neil: Itās funny, because in the Eighties we used to struggle, with every producer we worked with really, to get a good bell sound. And a good bell sound we depned as being the bell sound at the beginning of the single mix of āOpen Your Heartā by Madonna. āHow do you get that bell?ā No one could ever get it. Itās chunky. Now you can just get it. Chris: Itās a very, very cool- sounding track to me, āBolshyā. Neil: I always thought it even has something very slightly jazzy about it. After the instrumental it gets the album going with a real āweyāheyā. bourgeoisie.ā Chris: Stuartās really good at using the technology to create really interesting cut-up effects. Then, at the very last minute, we added an āooh-woah-wohāohā sing-along bit as the ?nal icing on the cake. We were having a meeting for the Electric tour and so we used Andy Crookston and Pete Gleadall for the all-male terrace vocal effect. Neil: At one point I went away somewhere leaving Chris and Stuart in the studio and said, āDonāt work on ā. . .Bourgeoisā because I want to be there when we work on that.ā And Stuart worked on it anyway. Chris: We had to ā we were working in alphabetical order. Neil: He refused to break the concept just because Iād gone away somewhere. Chris: Thatās one of the things about Stuart: he ignores instructions from Neil. Neil: Edicts are ignored. Chris: Neil said, āIām not working with the television on.ā Totally ignored. Not many people would actually ignore Neil like that. Neil: Not many people, in my opinion, would have the television on all day long, but thatās a separate issue. Chris: But it was great, watching Escape To The Country everyday. We were all trying to work out how much the house was going to be. Neil: Oh, it was an education into daytime television, which Iāve never known anything about. I loved Escape To The Country. Itās a great programme. Whatās interesting about daytime television is the presenters ~ suddenly you -discover that Nicki Chapman who was one of the judges of the original Pop Idol is striding round a house in Lincolnshire on Escape To The Country. Chris: Oh, sheās never off. “Fluorescent” Neil: The next track we worked on, in the alphabetical order days, was āDreamā ā āInside a dreamā. But after weād ?nished what was an eight-track album originally, I was making something to eat at home and I had music playing from my computer and suddenly this track came on, and I didnāt know what it was. I thought, āWhy donāt we do stuff like this?ā I thought it was something from a Kompakt record compilation but then I walked over to my computer and saw that it was a Chris demo that I had forgotten about. So I re-sent it to Chris and Stuart saying, āWhy isnāt this on the album?ā Chris: I did that demo in my house on a laptop and a miniākeyboard one night. Sometimes when Iām a bit bored and thereās absolutely nothing on television ā and there has to be literally nothing on television, even Newsnighfs not on ā I might go down to the basement and knock something up if I feel like it. Neil: Yes, one morning I woke up and on my email there were three new instrumentals. Chris: The trouble is that once you start you can suddenly ?nd that itās two oāclock in the morning. The time goes so quick once you start messing around with music. Neil: The demo was titled āFluorescenceā. Chris: We had already decided we were calling the album Electric, so I would have been thinking āOh yes, electric. .. ?uorescent light. . .ā I would just have been in that zone of words. Neil: Then we went to Berlin very soon afterwards. Chris: It was that very modern thing where Stuart was in LA and we were in Berlin. Neil: We took Chrisās demo to Berlin and turned it into a song. Originally it had loads more lyrics. I began by working with the āFluorescenceā idea but then I said, āDo you mind if itās āFluorescentā?ā and based the words around that. This is another heterosexual song. Itās about a model like Kate Moss, a very glamorous person. Chris: When I bumped into Kate Moss at the Olympics closing ceremony I said, āWhat are you doing here?ā ā not as in āWhy are you here?ā but āWhat are you doing here?ā ā and she said, āWalking.ā Neil: The person singing the song is someone like Bryan Ferry and heās in a club, surrounded by beautiful women, and thereās this particular woman dancing whoās a bit dangerous, with a scandalous reputation, and heās thinking about her. Heās just thinking about where sheās gone right, where sheās gone Wrong, what it would be like to be her. Whether heās going to chat her up. Heās kind of weighing her up. I also wanted to get in the phrase āthe occasional oligarchā which Iāve had lying around for ages. We did this all in one day in Berlin and we were very excited and we were going to send it to Stuart but then Chris said, āNo, letās just wait and see what we think of it in the morning.ā Itās amazing when you play something in the morning because it was immediately crystal clear that it had too many words. Sometimes I shoehom in words that Iāve had for a while. So we edited it down in a very Brian Higginsā āWhat is the concept of this song?ā way, so that it became very clear what it was, taking out all of the unnecessary scene-setting detail. Chris: Then we sent it to Stuart and he did some work on it. Itās a great way of working, being in different continents, because the time difference works in your favour. You send something over when you go to bed, theyāve got all day to work on it, and then when they go to bed they send it over to you and itās the start of your day again. So actually itās a brilliant way of working. Our demo was a bit more minimal glitch. Stuart made it more like Visage. Then when he sent it back we worked on the chorus ā we didnāt have ābrighter and brighterā at that point. Because I came up with āhigher and higherā, and Neil went āyou canāt have āhigher and higherā ā weāll have ābrighter and brighterā .ā Neil: It ?ts in with the concept. Chris: Itās always āhigher and higherā with me. The old rave clichĆ©s always get trotted out. āCanāt it be more like āhigher and higherā, Neil? āMove your bodyā?ā āNo, it canāt.ā Neil: I love this song. Fluorescence is a glamorous concept to me and I always thought this song sounded glamorous. “Inside a dream” Neil: The original version was written during the writing sessions for Elysium in Berlin. Chris: It was originally a demo Iād written. It had an octave bassline. What transformed this is when Neil sang a vocal adlib. Neil: When we decided to do this dance album, after Elysium was ?nished, Chris dug out all of the dance tracks weād done but hadnāt recorded, and made a playlist. This was on it and was more impressive than Iād remembered. We were working with Stuart in a studio in West London, we got this one up and we decided it needed a bit more singing on it. As I sometimes do when I havenāt got any ideas whatsoever, I looked up the existing title ā which was āInside a dreamā ā and Google very kindly led me to a poem by William Blake, āThe land of dreamsā. So I sang this tune with William Blake ās words, and then we did our Marvin Gaye thing ā as in āWhatās Going Onā ā where you sing a countermelody to the main melody. And the countermelody turned out to be much better than the original melody, so we dumped the original melody. Chris: Stuart just sets up the microphone in the studio and puts agreat e?°ect on it. Everything Stuart does is very quick and it comes across as effortless. So he just hands the microphone to Neil with a great effect on it, which lends itself to these vocals. Neil: So youāre not embarrassed. Chris: Youāre not embarrassed doing them, because it all sounds amazing. Neil: I mean, youāve got Neil Tennant pretending to be Marvin Gaye ā itās potentially an embarrassing situation, in the same way as Neil Tennant pretending to be Madonna singing āEroticaā. But put an effect on your voice and it sounds great. Chris: I think thereās something about going into the vocal booth to do the performance. But when youāre just sat in the room and Stuartās watching television and I ām having a cup of tea and a Kit Kat, thereās no ānow weāre going to do the vocal…ā thing. Neil: No, Iām saying, āCan we just turn the television down before I do this?ā Chris: Bernard (Sumner) was the first person we saw just sitting in the studio with the mic. He never used to go into the booth. Neil: The words are about dreaming. Taking yourself out of your mundane surroundings. Pretty typical for my lyrics. Having a sexy dream. There ās nothing much to it. People are always asking me about the start. Itās got backward vocals, but they are meaningless. They are simply there. Stuart did it, and it sounds great and it sounds exciting, and ?ie point of it is to sound exciting. I think it is my voice, but I donāt even know what I ām singing. Chris: I think one of the things about this album is that itās not really about classic pop songs. The song structures arenāt generally verse/chorus/verse/ chorus/middle-eight/chorus. Neil: There was no discussion during the making of the album of, āRight, this is a single. Take it seriously, everyone.ā There was no discussion of that. I donāt know what lesson we learn from that. Chris: Nothing, probably. Neil: This has also got a great bell line. Chris: One of the best. Neil: I think my favourite bit on the whole album is this bell line and then the William Blake part. It was one of those miraculous moments where suddenly this track was 70 percent better. “The last to die” Neil: This was demoed during the writing sessions for Elysium. Chris: My sister and I often gift Apple iTunes songs to each other. I think thatās the best thing about iTunes ā gifting stuff. And she didnāt actually gift this to me, but she said that there was this Bruce Springsteen song that weād probably like. So we listened to it, and we could really hear it as a Pet Shop Boys song, just because of the chords and the four-on-the-?oor, and also factoring Stuart and the prospect of making it sound like The Killers as well. And we liked the song. Neil: We did a totally ?nished demo back then. We knew it wasnāt going to go on Elysium ā we just did it for the fun of it really. Chris: We particularly liked the guitar riff. Neil: Which, on our demo, became a synth riff. Chris: Actually, I listened to Bruce Springsteenās version again recently, and Neilās changed the Vocal melody quite considerably. In a good Way. Neil: I didnāt really listen to it very carefully because we werenāt doing it very seriously. Chris: I hadnāt heard his version since that day and if you listened to it youād be quite surprised. Neil: I changed one of his lyrics as well. I made it āwhoāll be the last to die for our mistakes?ā, instead of ā. .. a mistake?ā. I wanted it to be more singer-pointing. At ourselves. At we, the public. The line comes from Senator John Kerry. Chris: Who sat behind us on a right from Washington to Boston. And he refused to switch his phone off during take-off. The air stewardess had to come to him several times. Neil: His two security people sat in economy. But he was on a commercial Delta ?ight. I think if I was Secretary of State Iād demand Air Force Two for the weekend. Anyway, thatās who Bruce Springsteen got the line from: Kerry, who was a Vietnam vet, came back from Vietnam and was a witness before a Senate subcommittee and he said, āHow do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?ā The mistake in this case being the Vietnam war. And then Bruce Springsteen quoted it in the wake of the Iraq war. Chris: And so when we did interviews people said to us āthis is your most political albumā. Neil: One French journalist, particularly. ā. . .āLove is a bourgeois constructā . . .ā Chris: ā… āBolshyā… āVocalā…ā Neil: ā. .. āI like the peopleā… Bruce Springsteen… antiāwar song…ā I said, āThatās quite a convincing case youāve made.ā Actually he didnāt say āpoliticalā, he said āleftāwingā. Chris: We started the demo in my basement. I remember that Angela came round and we had a meeting there. She went, āThis is a real den.ā Neil: We were just making it sound like us, which is always our basic idea for a cover version. Chris: It was one of those Bruce Springsteen songs with really nice chords. The kind of thing weāre famous for as well. So it wasnāt much of a leap from his to ours, once you put the four-on-the-?oor, the electronic pad, the synth riff, we were kind of there, really. Neil: Itās still about the Iraq war when I sing it. But thereās been a lot of mistakes. I like the lyrics. I particularly like the last verse, though itās got a word that could be one of two things. āA downtown window ?ushed with. . .ā And then is it ā. . .lightā or ā. . .lifeā I think on the record I sing, ā. . .rushed with lifeā and live I sing ā. . .?ushed with lightā. Itās dif?cult to tell what Bruce Springsteen sings. The bit I really like is this slightly surreal moment: āI see her martyrās silent eyes / petition the drivers as we pass byā. Chris: Bloody good, that, isnāt it? Neil: Itās a great song to sing live itās got a singing-live kind of melody and itās got a lot of fervour and energy in it. We havenāt heard what he thinks of it, but I thought he might be quite pleased to have a cover version that takes your song really seriously but makes it moreChris: Neil was about to go for a jog, and before he went he shouted into a microphone, āYes yes yes yes, no no no no. . .ā and so on. Neil: That was based on an artwork by Bruce Nauman, Clown Torture, where a clown shouts, āNo no no no no. . . !ā And when I came back from the jog Chris had written some music. Iād had an idea in my phone for a song called āShouting in the eveningā which is a phrase Iād heard attributed to Michael Gambon, the British actor. When someone said to him, āWhat do you do for a living?ā he said, āShouting in the evening.ā Which I thought was quite funny. I think I read it in a review of a play. And then the phrase āshouting in the eveningā made me think of the song āDancing On The Ceilingā by Lionel Richie, so I made it āoh what a feeling / shouting in the eveningā. Though I should point out that our melody is considerably different. Then Stuart made it noisier. Chris: Itās quite ravey, isnāt it? Neil: It turns into The Prodigy or something like that. Chris: You went up north and left me and Stuart behind to work in the studio. Neil: It was for my sisterās sixtieth birthday ā I had to go up a couple of days beforehand. Chris: So I spend a couple of days with Stuart. But I wasnāt doing much ā I was just drinking tea, watching television, having Kit-Kats. Neil: You were probably inspiring him. Chris: I was. “Thursday” Neil: This wasnāt a ?nished song when we started working on the album. It was a demo by Chris called āThursday night specialā. It always sounded really good, but it wasnāt a song as such. Chris: Iām not sure why it was called that. It might have been written on a Thursday night, but also me and my friends used to say, āShall we have a Thursday Night Special?ā Which was going out on Thursday. Because of course in London, Thursday was the new Friday. It probably still is. I donāt think itās moved to Wednesday yet. Neil: Anyway, before we started working on it I had Chrisās demo and I thought, āIāve got to write a lyric about Thursdayā. I went out jogging, in classic fashion, and thought, āāThursday, then Friday… itās soon going to be the weekend!ā ā God, itās like a real pop lyric.ā Iām always impressed when I come up with something utterly banal because I think itās a very di??cult thing to come up with. We sang that in the studio quite early on, and then it was decided to have spokenbits. Chris: Stuart had put in this great breakdown bit ā not a new bit, but a breakdown ā and we thought it would be great to have a rap. So we Googled Nicki Minaj and found an a cappella of hers and it sounded absolutely fantastic on the track ā that was just to see what a rap would sound like. Around then we stopped working with Stuart for a while and he was doing some demos with Example, so Stuart got in touch and said: āIāve got Example in the studio ā a rapper!ā Example was keen to do it, but he also wanted to sing. So on those terms we agreed -ā he sang a different chorus melody that he came up with, and a rap. Neil: Itās our most unsually structured song since āWhat have I done to deserve this?ā, I think. Or maybe one of the Xenomania ones. Before Example got involved Iād put in the spoken verses which were written on the hoof in the studio. That became ādonāt say itās over, overā though originally it was another lyric. That suddenly sounded very haunting and we liked that, and also again, with Stuartās good vocal-speaking effect, it wasnāt embarrassing saying things like āromantic… I need some meaning… expressed with feeling…ā I was very much not being me, saying that. Chris: Then I did chorus B: āItās Thursday night…ā Neil: My chorus melody, the first one, was āThursday, then Friday…ā Example came in and did, āI never tried to make you walk into the deep end…ā and then we decided to link it all in because we were worried that the whole thing didnāt sit together and that there should be a chorus melody that re?ected Exampleās sung melody, so I tried to sing my lyrics using Exampleās sung melody, which ended up as, āItās Thursday night, letās get it right, I want to know youāre going to stay for the weekend.ā Chris: So this song has actually got three choruses. Neil: At that point we were going to dump the original chorus, but there was a sense of longing in it. Then, when I wasnāt in the studio, Chris put on the classic list of days. Chris: Youād literally just gone through the door. Stuart liked that idea. I did it and then of course instantly regretted it. Neil: One of the reviews of the album mentioned āthe sheer joy of Chris Lowe reciting a listā. Chris: Actually, one of the highlights of having done that was we had dinner with Stuart, Angela and Brandon Flowers, and on the steps of the restaurant on the way out he sang to me the spoken bit of āPaninaroā. Neil: āYou, youāre my lover…ā Chris: To me! It was a bit weird. Actually it was a great moment. I really enjoyed it. And then someone else, the other day, went to me āThursday. . . Friday. . .ā Neil: People often say to me, āWho did the speaking bit on that?ā and I go Example and they go, āNo no i no no. . .ā Chris: Who said that the other day? Neil: Oh, Iāll tell you who it was! It was the guy who plays the nasty butler in Downton Abbey. Heās actually from Manchester. āNo no no, āThursday… Friday…āā Itās a very good hook. That also pulled everything together. There were a ā lot of structural discussions going on with this song, emails with suggested structures, and then suddenly it ended up sounding great. Chris: We also thought about what Kool & the Gang might do at one point. That led to, āItās Thursday night / letās get it right.ā Like āLadies Nightā. Because once we realised it was a party record, it was, āWhat would Kool and the Gang do in this situation?ā Neil: In the song whatās happening is that thereās a guy ā it could be the same guy as āLove is a bourgeois constructā ā and his girl?iend. Or is she his girlfriend? I think theyāre breaking up. But he doesnāt really want to break up. Iāve noticed that in a lot of my songs women are always ruthless and decisive and men are always pathetic. Anyway, the ruthless woman has had enough and heās having a last ditch attempt at keeping her: āItās Thursday night, letās get it right… come on, stay for the weekend, oh go on.ā Heās sort of admitting they could break up: āIt could be now, it could be tomorrow, donāt say itās over, over.ā So itās a āplease donāt break upā song. Chris: I hear that lyric completely differently. To me itās: āThe partyās not going to ?nish… donāt say itās over… because itās not going to end.ā As Miley Cyrus said, āWe canāt stop, and we wonāt stop.ā Itās how you can get a completely different meaning. Neil: Exampleās part is a guilt thing: āTake that trip down memory lane…ā He is the guilty boyfiend, looking at it from Sunday morning. Heās been out on Friday, all day Saturday, all night Saturday and come back on Sunday morning. Chris: Heās creeping in. Neil: Heās trashed, doing that Sunday morning creeping. Thereās a great line he wrote: āI want to stay but I must row that boat home.ā So maybe itās like a Richard Curtis ?lm where there are two separate stories, two strands to the ?lm ā the Neil Tennant one and the Example one. Theyāre both in the same ?lm, and the turnās called Thursday. “Vocal” Neil: āVocalā’was not only written from Elysium but in my memory was almost the ?rst song written for Elysium. Chris: In Berlin. I canāt quite remember. I think Neil was playing something and I was playing some chords simultaneously. I think there was just a groove going round and round and round, and I was putting those chords on. Neil: I hadthe lyric, which was meant to be a sort of joke about dance music to begin with. Chris: When we ?nished it, we went out, and when we came back we played it one a loop, thinking, āHow great is this song! Weāve got a hit!ā It was a bit of a mess at that point, a bit all over the place, but that was quite exciting. Neil: I had the lines that went, āI like the singer / heās lonely and strange / Every track has a vocal / and that makes a change.ā Chris: It had brass lines and all sorts. Neil: It was more song-y, the demo. Chris: Then we worked on this track with Andrew Dawson. Neil: For a while I wanted to call the Elysium album Vocal. But we didnāt work on it that much with Andrew and it never really… Thereās a mix, but it was never really a ?nished mix. Chris: Andrewās forte wasnāt really the four-on-the-?oor stuff that Stuart has an innate understanding of. We knew that āVocalā had to be an anthem. Neil: Yeah. And the stakes had been raised because this was a dance album. In some ways one of the main reasons we were doing a dance album is because we had āAxisā and we had āVocalā ā We knew we had two really great dance tracks. Chris: And then it was the last song to get ?nished for Electric, because we were working alphabetically, and Stuart sent over what he had done and it was so house-y and ravey. Neil: I was slightly shocked when I first heard it. Heād stripped it right back. Because Chrisās brass line part on the demo gave it a kind of moving quality that was taken out, though now itās moving in a different way. Chris: Stuart gave it such euphoria. Neil: He dragged it into the twenty- first century. Chris: Stuart made this probably the most euphoric piece of music weāve ever produced. Neil: Itās a tribute to the song and to his arrangement of it that on the first night of the tour proper in Chile, at the dress rehearsal the day before, Chris demanded that we didnāt do āGo Westā as the final encore, we did āVocalā. I was a bit nervous about this, partly because the structure of it is a little bit random. But it went down really great. It just worked. And that was two months before the album came out. It kind of winds up the album by summing up what the whole thing is about. The song became about something I didnāt personally participate in, but Iāve heard enough about it ā the rave scene ā but also my own memories. One of the main inspirations was remembering being on a dance?oor in Brazil during the Discovery tour ā Chris and Literally were there too ā~ and it was just totally great, and a lot of other memories like that, being on a dance?oor, the sense of community. I like the story that emerges, too, of the singer who is lonely and strange. Chris: Originally it was a DJ. Neil: No, it went, āI like the DJ / I like the song,ā but I decided I didnāt want to pay homage to the DJ so I made it āthe peopleā. Chris: For a while it was āthese peopleā. Neil: Yes. I decided that sounded stupid. Itās funny how you can struggle over the most simple phrase for months. Years even, in this instance. But itās a great end to the album. And the show. Chris: Itās great that we started the show with the ?rst track on the album and ended the show with the last track on this album. “POPPY” Neil: The most experimental track on the album. I always think that on the vinyl Version āShouting in the eveningā should be at the start of side two. It was written during the Elysium sessions. |